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Lucca3927
According the the wizard, the all part of the tall/small has a house edge of over 20%, taking the title of the worst bet away from the any 7.
I see people betting it all the time. Personally, I think the casino person who thought it up bet deserves a raise.
Why play it other than out of greed or desperation?
I see people betting it all the time. Personally, I think the casino person who thought it up bet deserves a raise.
Why play it other than out of greed or desperation?
It’s a cornucopia of colorful names and slang for basically rotten gambling. There isn’t a single. Our craps bets page offers a dice combinations chart that explains this entirely. Using this information, players will find the worst bets in craps are the ones least likely to land and with the highest house edge. These bets will usually have the biggest payout odds in craps, but the chances of landing them are slim. With a house edge of just 1.40 percent, the Don’t Come is a premier bet. Most craps players feel that this bet is against the grain of the game. Extremely few craps players will ever make Don’t Come bets (Some analysts will use 1.36 percent as the house edge for this bet.). If you think you are reading double, you are. Just as the Come bet is basically the same bet as a Pass Line bet so too a Don’t Come bet is basically the same as a Don’t Pass bet.
FleaStiff
Why play it other than out of greed or desperation?
What is that about a man's reach should exceed his grasp or else what's a Heaven for? People spring for a buck on a fifty million to one chance in the lottery so at least they are better off with The All.GlenG
Dealt to a guy the other day hit it 3 times in an Hour paying max. 100/50/100. Didn't even shoot
odiousgambit
there are stories told here of casinos afraid of this bet ... nah, the fire bet is what I am thinking ofthe next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
SM777
People are interested in betting a little to win a lot. Doesn't matter the house edge, they're attracted by those high payouts, no matter how difficult to hit.
They're afraid to be the guy to miss out on a large payout by being too cheap to put down a $1. It's not like you're asking for a minimum bet of $10.
They're afraid to be the guy to miss out on a large payout by being too cheap to put down a $1. It's not like you're asking for a minimum bet of $10.
mustangsally
According the the wizard, the all part of the tall/small has a house edge of over 20%, taking the title of the worst bet away from the any 7.
depends on the payout.https://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/appendix/5/#toc-All
I have seen only the 175 to 1 version
'The All bet wins if the shooter rolls every total except a 7 before a 7.
It is always offered along with the Small and Tall bets explained above.
The probability of winning of 0.005258, or about 1 in 190. There are two known payoffs, as follows:
If wins pay 175 to 1 (or 176 for 1), then the house edge is 7.47%.
If wins pay 150 to 1 (or 151 for 1), then the house edge is 20.61%.
Quote: Lucca3927
I see people betting it all the time.
Personally, I think the casino person who thought it up bet deserves a raise.
Why play it other than out of greed or desperation?
because a great payoff at 175 to 1!
think about it...
a lottery where the top prize is $2 more than the ticket cost.
no thrill of excitement
when one wins!
enjoy the ride and view
nice observation for sure
Sally
WatchMeWin
Dealt to a guy the other day hit it 3 times in an Hour paying max. 100/50/100. Didn't even shoot
What casino?
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
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Why should he tell you which casino he works at?
Most posters who work in casinos prefer anonymity on gambling boards.
Most posters who work in casinos prefer anonymity on gambling boards.
Worst Craps Bets
klimate10
I truly do not understand the mindset of most people who play craps. I mean, I do, but I don’t. I don’t believe the justification that people love to bet a little to win a lot. Most people who bet these bad bets do not bet a little, they actually bet a lot. It’s like people who argue that roulette is fun because of the huge 35-1 payoff. But not really. Most people cover enough numbers that the payoff is really only like even money across all bets.
For example, I was at the casino playing the free buy bet 4 and 10, and this shooter goes on a tear, and I win a pile of chips.
So this shooter rolls nothing but 4s and 10s, but they’re all soft. The table is betting heavy on the hardways, and they’re getting killed, despite the hot roll. So I tell the guys next to me take the hard 4 and hard 10 money and put it on the 4 and 10 buy, and their response was that the 4 and 10 pay 7-1, and the buy bet only pays 2-1.
But that’s actually not true. These guys are betting $100 each on all the hard ways, so a win pays only roughly 2-1 across all the hardways bets made.
And trying to educate people on the house edge is impossible. I’ve learned to not even try.
For example, I was at the casino playing the free buy bet 4 and 10, and this shooter goes on a tear, and I win a pile of chips.
So this shooter rolls nothing but 4s and 10s, but they’re all soft. The table is betting heavy on the hardways, and they’re getting killed, despite the hot roll. So I tell the guys next to me take the hard 4 and hard 10 money and put it on the 4 and 10 buy, and their response was that the 4 and 10 pay 7-1, and the buy bet only pays 2-1.
But that’s actually not true. These guys are betting $100 each on all the hard ways, so a win pays only roughly 2-1 across all the hardways bets made.
And trying to educate people on the house edge is impossible. I’ve learned to not even try.
Bondy3
last time we were in vegas my wife was betting it (despite me asking her not to) because she said its fun to play, she was betting $1 each, so $3 at a time) since there is a 1/6 chance the bet will be resolved and we played for about 1000 rolls of the dice (ish) it means that she cost us about $300 in EV, by contrast I was betting the pass line for $25 with 10x odds meaning I had a lot more action on the table, but the house edge is so much lower, meaning that I only cost us about $75 in EV, but my play got us our room and dinner comped, they didnt give her ANYTHING for bettign that sucker bet dispite the huge -EV we had to endure, (end of the night we ended up being down $2000, she was down $400 and I was down $1600, but I was more pissed about her $400 than I was about my $1600 because of the lost EV.
it was 30 150 30 when we were playing it, but she said she would ahve played it even if it was 25 120 25, because at that point its not about the edge its about the way the bet itself makes you feel. same reason she loves keno
overall people like her are what keeps the casinos in business, if everyone was like me (and like many of you) there would be no casinos
it was 30 150 30 when we were playing it, but she said she would ahve played it even if it was 25 120 25, because at that point its not about the edge its about the way the bet itself makes you feel. same reason she loves keno
overall people like her are what keeps the casinos in business, if everyone was like me (and like many of you) there would be no casinos
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Learning the basic craps strategy can have great benefits in your betting game. Some of them minimize the house edge to almost nothing. There are no casino games other that craps that can offer better odds except for blackjack with card counting strategy. There really isn't any way to improve your edge over the house edge, but you can make it nearly zero. The dice control concept is theoretically a way to actually cheat at craps, but it's extremely hard to do and it's advanced. Dice control strategy will be discussed in another craps article.
Tips and Strategies
When beginning a game of craps, it's essential to know the game and all the basic rules first so that you understand the bets. When playing at the local casino, you'll usually find everyone using unfamiliar terminology as well. So the best things to do are read about the game and learn a little bit about different bets that can be played and the table layout. A great way to practice this game is to play at an online casino with less distractions first. This way you can learn the game before you end up losing your money to bad betting strategies.
Best Craps Bets
I should tell you right away that the best craps bet is the 'don't pass' bet with the free odds bet. This combination can ultimately lower the house edge to 0.01%, which is ridiculously low at a casino. You can use this strategy and make a ton of money, or at least keep playing for a very long time without losing your bankroll. Because of this fact, this is why craps is such a wild and spectacular experience.
Another good craps bet is the pass line bet. This bet is the second best bet on the craps table and the house has a slightly greater edge. People like to bet for the shooter, usually due to peer pressure in a casino and will take this bet rather than the 'don't pass' bet, which is actually a better wager. This is where online casinos have a huge advantage over land based casinos because there is no peer pressure or anyone pressuring you to make a slightly worse bet.
These two bets are the best ones to take before the come out roll. After a point number has been made, then these two bets go into a second phase and the strategy gets a little more interesting. During the second phase of these bets, you can make an odds bet. You are essentially betting that a point number will be rolled before a seven, and we all know that the seven is the most probable roll out of any other number.
What Is The Safest Bet In Craps
Once the point has been determined after the come out roll, you can make your free odds bet. Usually this is a multiple of your original bet such as 2x, 3x and even as high up as 100x at Las Vegas craps. This multiple is usually limited, but the craps strategy says that the higher multiple that you choose, the lower the house edge gets overall. Free odds always pay true odds and the house has no edge. Your total odds is an average of this free odds bet and the pass line or don't pass bet, so your absolute odds are not exactly zero, but almost.
Worst Craps Bets
There are also some bad bets out there as well. These are sometimes known as proposition bets and these have a huge house edge. Normally the people who fall for these bad bets are uneducated about the craps strategy or they don't really know the mathematics behind the bets. Other players may not even know about the free odds bet to begin with because the bet itself isn't displayed on the craps table! This is why the odds bets are sometimes known as the secret craps bets because many people easily pass them up, even if they are intelligent and understand the game.
Some of these bad proposition bets are the big six bet or the big eight bet. You win when a 6 or 8 is rolled and you are paid even money. This is a very bad bet because as you can see from our odds and probabilities page, this is less likely to be rolled than a 7. When you get down to it, the house has a 9.1% edge, which is a huge disadvantage for you because the casino makes lots of money from this bet and you lose lots of money. This is bad craps strategy.
These aren't even the worst craps bets. There are far worse ones than that. Hard 4 and hard 10 are both bets that have a house edge of more than 11%. If you want a good craps tip, stay away from these. The casino is robbing you here!
Even worse are the proposition bets. These are displayed on the craps tables as images of dice in a smaller box in the middle. Also, these kinds of bets only last for one roll at a time unlike most of the bets that stay until the end of the round when a seven is rolled. This means if you are betting on snake eyes or box cards (2 or 12), you have a 1 in 36 chance that they will be rolled, but the dealer pays you 30 to 1 odds, which is a terrible craps bet. The house edge is almost 15% and is one of the worst in the casino. This is just proof that if you don't know the craps strategy or don't follow the tips, you could end up losing a lot of money really quick.
Advice on Craps Bets
Best And Worst Craps Bets
My advice is to just stick with the good bets mentioned above and don't play the bad ones unless you have money to burn, just want to entertain the people at the table, or just have a gut instinct that a lucky roll is about to come out. For another tip, don't get intimidated by how complicated the craps table is. The casino only wants people to lose concentration and make bad bets this way, but the basic betting concept is actually quite simple if you stick to just the few good bets.
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