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TwoFeathersATL

Are you really going to do this? Boz and I are just fine. Why do you bring up something from five days ago? I think there's a name for that, in fact I know there's a name for that.
Don't you have a waterfall to find?

Bookie definition, bookmaker (def. The first records of the word bookie come from the 1880s. It’s a shortened version of bookmaker, in which the word refers to a record of bets. The suffix -ie is used in informal and diminutive nouns. The first records of the word bookmaker come from around 1400. The word maker is used in the same way in the related word oddsmaker. How much money did Brian owe Stewie? Meanwhile, Stewie becomes a bookie and takes a $50 bet from Brian on a Celebrity Boxing match pitting Mike Tyson against Carol Channing. Brian bets on Tyson and loses. Stewie comes to collect, but Brian laughs him off and tells him he will have the money in 24 hours. This line was cribbed from the movie Dirty Work, but it’s completely applicable. If I owe you three thousand dollars from Norwood missing the kick wide right, you have two avenues of recourse, Mr.


I actually didn't realize there was another couple of pages of posts on the subject.
You've already told me not to apologize, so I will not.
I could leave my post in place, or I could delete or edit it.
For now, I'll leave it as is.
Might not be timely, but it's still relevant.
You say there's a name for that, you don't say the name, you just say there is a name.
Nice little word dance. You got a name? Say the name.
You worried about the admins?
I give you permission to say the name, and beg for your forgiveness from the admins.
You say?
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
RogerKint
Bookie
My neighbors must be secret administrators because they all refer to each other as SA.
Lando
No one really countered my reasoning in the last several posts here. Just randomly came across it again.
I find it weird the whole 'bookies are honorable' thing; they are businessmen involved in usury type ventures, then act all surprised if a guy stiffs (not all, smart ones know but probably don't say out loud the truth).
These problems all vanish if you are a book that requires post up, right? Then why do bookies offer 'credit'? Exactly, to get another advantage. There's no honor in that.
billryan
Bookies enable people to dream. There is nothing wrong with that. Is it an honorable profession? Compared to what?
Lando
Yes they do. Here's an example of how a lot, but not all bookies think --- but you know they are all in for every edge they can get. I'm not saying all bookies or every bookie does XYZ, but to think they aren't formed by this kind of thinking in general, a lot of which is dishonorable, is a joke. Check it out:
https://www.realbookies.com/settling-with-players-313
As I've said before, keeping players so that you can get long term gains on them is balanced by their desire for action, your leash on credit, and how they feel about your 'service'. Going back to what I was saying in previous posts (you can check page 3), acting like taking money on credit when people chase (as if you loaned them money legitimately) is silly. Credit and payment are only as good as long as the player finds you a valuable service, whatever that means.
Post up shops know that they ultimately make out with less (yes even counting for stiffs, ask any local) for not dealing with credit like locals do. Their benefit is that there is no doubt as to the veracity and understanding of making bets = you have the money, you make the bet and cash or lose it. With locals it isn't like that, I'm still surprised to this day that people put up this front that there is some honor in all this. There's not. It's a business. If books could stiff, they would. It would ruin their business though, because no one would play with them, and thus, they wouldn't make the kind of money they do (a good amount). It's just a business decision on their end (the right one). It's got nothing to do with principle or honor. Look at the link if you doubt that.
WatchMeWin

Yes they do. Here's an example of how a lot, but not all bookies think --- but you know they are all in for every edge they can get. I'm not saying all bookies or every bookie does XYZ, but to think they aren't formed by this kind of thinking in general, a lot of which is dishonorable, is a joke. Check it out:
https://www.realbookies.com/settling-with-players-313
As I've said before, keeping players so that you can get long term gains on them is balanced by their desire for action, your leash on credit, and how they feel about your 'service'. Going back to what I was saying in previous posts (you can check page 3), acting like taking money on credit when people chase (as if you loaned them money legitimately) is silly. Credit and payment are only as good as long as the player finds you a valuable service, whatever that means.
Post up shops know that they ultimately make out with less (yes even counting for stiffs, ask any local) for not dealing with credit like locals do. Their benefit is that there is no doubt as to the veracity and understanding of making bets = you have the money, you make the bet and cash or lose it. With locals it isn't like that, I'm still surprised to this day that people put up this front that there is some honor in all this. There's not. It's a business. If books could stiff, they would. It would ruin their business though, because no one would play with them, and thus, they wouldn't make the kind of money they do (a good amount). It's just a business decision on their end (the right one). It's got nothing to do with principle or honor. Look at the link if you doubt that.


Do you owe some bookies money? Is this the reason for your great disdain towards them? Ive had many experiences with bookies in my pre-enlightened days.... and they were not good memories to say the least. I wish they had legalized sports betting when I was younger. It would have changed my life. I was young and dumb and went way over my head.... and the bookies let me. Honor? lol Thugs is more like it. Everyone is out for money man. Its always all about the money. Im glad they are finally legalizing sports betting in many states. Put the frikin criminal thugs out of business. I could write a book ... maybe one day I will.
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
DRich

Do you owe some bookies money? Is this the reason for your great disdain towards them? Ive had many experiences with bookies in my pre-enlightened days.... and they were not good memories to say the least. I wish they had legalized sports betting when I was younger. It would have changed my life. I was young and dumb and went way over my head.... and the bookies let me. Honor? lol Thugs is more like it. Everyone is out for money man. Its always all about the money. Im glad they are finally legalizing sports betting in many states. Put the frikin criminal thugs out of business. I could write a book ... maybe one day I will.


I live in Las Vegas and I can tell you that legal sports betting does not get rid of bookies. Because of credit, bookies still exist.
Living longer does not always infer +EV
WatchMeWin

I live in Las Vegas and I can tell you that legal sports betting does not get rid of bookies. Because of credit, bookies still exist.

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I dont disagree with that. It is a HUGE market and people just love to gamble.... especially NFL. Plus the fact that you dont have a win loss record on the gov books with your local book man. But what people should be aware of is that if you dont have the funds... dont put in the bets with the bookies. It is easy for young people to go over their heads and then chase and find themselves tens of thousands in debt to guys that will use all types of scare tactics to get their paper.
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
Lando

Do you owe some bookies money? Is this the reason for your great disdain towards them? Ive had many experiences with bookies in my pre-enlightened days.... and they were not good memories to say the least. I wish they had legalized sports betting when I was younger. It would have changed my life. I was young and dumb and went way over my head.... and the bookies let me. Honor? lol Thugs is more like it. Everyone is out for money man. Its always all about the money. Im glad they are finally legalizing sports betting in many states. Put the frikin criminal thugs out of business. I could write a book ... maybe one day I will.


No, I just find it stupid that people all follow along like drones on the whole thing about honor and principle, when the link proves above (and you know) they are as shifty as any 'stiff'. I have no naive notions that everyone is out for cash, I have no problem with that in the strictest sense of the term, but let's be honest about the realities. That's basically why I posted. It's sorta like how when guys on the internet act like if you 'owed' a bookie he'd come and break your legs, lol. As if he isn't making money off 90% of his client base and it's worth even a second to think about.
They'll always exist though, and it's not all bad, because I get it, credit is a convenience and the tax implications are the biggest thing for serious players. There's no way corrupt, broke governments can ever compete with that unless they have reasonable prices and allow you to walk out without having to worry about being tracked or reported. That is the case in the UK, for example, but if you win a couple thousand pounds they label you as [whatever word they use for winner] and then cut you off. See how funny it is? You can chase all the bets in the world and pay them, but when you win bookies cut you off. Essentially the same/flip side of stiffs. As if the credit losses the stiffs ran up were actually real money in the first place. Gimme a break. They benefit from it, yet don't admit that the business cost is the stiff at the end of his bad run. Comical stuff that no one says out loud and few have courage enough to even post on the internet, like me.
billryan
If you have a point, you aren't doing a very good job of explaining it. I just went and reread the entire thread and cant begin to understand what it is you are going on about. Evidently there is a world where bookies are considered good and honorable and you think that is a false impression and in reality they are all scum.
Is that the gist of it?

Dirty Work (1998) is a comedy. In the film, long-time friends Mitch (Macdonald) and Sam (Lange) start a revenge-for-hire business, and work to fund heart surgery for Sam's father Pops (Warden). When they take on work for an unscrupulous businessman (Christopher McDonald), in order to be paid, they create a revenge scheme of their own.

Dialogue[edit]

Mitch: Sam, you remember how things were when we were young?
Sam: Yeah, it was great.
Mitch: Yeah it was. I mean, I felt good about myself back then, y’know? If somebody messed with me, no problem. I didn’t take crap from anybody. Now I’m in my thirties, I can’t hold a job, I go with women I don’t even like. And worst of all, I take crap from absolutely everybody. Ah well, things could be worse, y’know, I uh… [louder] I coulda got my nose bit off by a Saigon whore!
Jimmy: [Turning round to reveal his bitten-off nose] You… bastard!
Mitch: There’s two kinds of people in this world: Those who get stomped on, and those who do the stomping.
Kathy: Where’d you come up with that theory?
Mitch: A famous guy said it. What’s his name, uh… Oh yeah, Jesus.
Bar patron: Looks like there’s gonna be a brawl. Playing something good?
Jimmy: Hell yeah! Rolling Stones, “Street Fighting Man,” G-7!
Patron: You just hit G-8.
[Jukebox plays “Escape (The Piña Colada Song).”]

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Mitch: Whoa, you got a dead hooker in the trunk!
Anton Phillips: What? No! [Slams the trunk.] It can’t be!
Mitch: Yes it was, it was a dead hooker!
Anton: It wasn’t a dead hooker!
Mitch: Hell, I know a dead hooker when I see one.
Anton: What’s happening? Hey, folks, come on down…
[Sam opens another trunk remotely.]
Mitch: Hey hey, here’s another dead hooker in this trunk!
Anton: What?
[Sam opens another and another. Anton frantically tries to close them.]
Mitch: Oh my goodness!
Anton: What’re you doing?
Mitch: I’ve never seen so many dead hookers in all my life!
Creepy Harry: Lord knows I have.
Heather the Bearded Lady: Hey baby. You ever had a chick with a beard before?
Mitch: [Nervously laughs.] Can’t say that I have there, bearded broad.
Heather: Well then sugar, you haven’t lived.
Mitch: [Into his tape recorder] Note to self: I don’t want to live.
Sam:' You thinking what I’m thinking?
Mitch: No no no no. I have a plan.
Sam: Oh.
Mitch: [After the rapists let him go.] You fellas have a lot of growing up to do, I’ll tell you that! Ridiculous! Completely ridiculous! You believe these characters? Way out of line, way out of line! I’ve a good mind to go to the warden about this! You know what hurts the most is the… the lack of respect! You know? That’s what hurts the most. Except for the… except for the other thing. That hurts the most. But the lack of respect hurts the second most.
Sam: Hey doc, what happened to your foot?
Dr. Farthing: What I don’t understand is, when you owe a bookie a lot of money, and he, say, blows off one of your toes, you still owe him the money. Doesn’t seem fair to me. Especially when he’s gonna kill me in four days anyway.
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Mitch: I tell you what. I’ll give you a dollar each if you go into this building here and run around yelling and sceaming.
Homeless guy (Fred Wolf); Ah y’know, that’s very nice, but I think what you probably need are like some psycho, out-of-control homeless guys.
Other homeless guy (Jim Downey): Yeah, we’re more the broken, spiritless, “I’ve lost the will to live” type homeless guys.
Mitch: How ’bout for two dollars?
[Cut to the homeless guys running amok in the building.]
Mitch: I mean we’ve always been like brothers. Now it’s just official. I mean it’s kinda cool.
Sam: Yeah, I guess it is cool. But it does change things.
Mitch: How’s that?
Sam: Well, like remember the second grade, when we used those rusty soda can tops to become blood brothers? Well, it was really a bunch of trouble for nothing, because we were already brothers.
Mitch: Yeah that’s right. Hey, hey! Hey, remember in fifth grade, when I was under the monkey bars and I sneaked a peek at your sister’s underwear? You remember that? Hey, no no: I was sneaking a peek at my own sister’s underwear!
Sam: [Laughing.] That’s right. Oh yeah, and remember in the twelfth grade, you had sex with her?
[Both immediately stop laughing.]
Mitch: Okay, enough reminiscing.
Kathy: You two are brothers?
Mitch: Yeah, it’s a long story.
Sam: My dad boned his mom.
Mitch: Okay, it’s a short story.
Kathy: I can’t believe I’m doing this. I don’t even know why I’m here.
Mitch: Hey, why are you here? Oh wait, I remember: Intense physical attraction to me.
Mitch: Hey, what’s up, fruity?
Travis Cole: How did you… It doesn’t matter; you’ll be gone in a minute.
Mitch: Aha! You didn’t count on my loyal army of prostitutes, did you?
Prostitute (Uni Park): [Growls at him.]
Travis: All right, what do you want?
Mitch: Ah, just relax. Let’s watch your dirty opera, huh?
Mitch: Oh hey, by the way, Travis, do you remember, uh, do you remember when you said this?
Mitch on tape:Note to self: Making love to blow-up doll not as good as advertised.
Travis: No.
Mitch: Oh, uh, sorry, I… Musta gone too far there.
Mitch: Here’s the check for fifty thousand.
Dr. Farthing: Oh, that’s great, Mitch. Say, what do you wanna bet I don’t go to my bookie?
Mitch: No! You’re going straight to your bookie to pay him off so you can live and perform Pop’s heart transplant!

Cast[edit]

  • Norm Macdonald - Mitch Weaver
  • Artie Lange - Sam McKenna
  • Jack Warden - Pops McKenna
  • Traylor Howard - Kathy
  • Chris Farley - Jimmy (final role)
  • Christopher McDonald - Travis Cole
  • Chevy Chase - Dr. Farthing,
Cameo appearances

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  • Don Rickles - Mr. Hamilton, theater owner
  • Rebecca Romijn - bearded lady
  • John Goodman - Mayor Adrian Riggins (uncredited)
  • Adam Sandler - Satan (uncredited)
  • Gary Coleman - Himself
  • David Koechner - Anton Phillips, a used car dealer
  • Jim Downey - homeless man
  • Fred Wolf - homeless man
  • Kevin Farley - Theater Worker

External links[edit]

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  • Dirty Work quotes at the Internet Movie Database
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